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. this is representative lamar smith wiping out diversity visas and replacing them with visas for foreign students who come to the u.s. and have degrees in math, science, and the argument that we're having, the conversation that we need to have is about the 11 million immigrants who live in the shadows. most of them are low-skilled workers. what we see are representatives like representative smith, robbing peter to pay paul. we can increase access for those high-skilled access at the same time that we increase access for low-skilled immigrants. that's the conversation that we need to of. the fact that they hide under the guys of increasing family unity is disgusting in my mind. >> alicia men dendez, thank you very much. >>> coming up, they just can't get enough of it. but today the truth came out and tomorrow, ambassador susan rice will meet with her harshest critic, john mccain. will we see an apology from the senator? >>> plus, donald trump is under fire with ugly attacks against the president from his own family. you're watching "politicsnation" on msnbc. ♪ questions? anyone have occasional constipati
like representative lamar smith. he's a climate change skept particular. so what was that that the gop chairman said about this election? >> i don't think you can draw any quick conclusions other than the fact that we lost and we know that. >> about that, i think i have a couple of quick conclusions. joining me now is former pennsylvania governor ed rendell, now an nbc news political analyst and cynthia tucker, pulitzer price columnist. thank you both for being here this evening. >> our pleasure. >> good to be here, reverend. >> cynthia, let me go to you first. why didn't the gop get the message? what are they thinking about with these committee chairs? >> well, that's a great question, rev? why didn't they get the message? for one thing, if they wanted to present people of color as committee chairs, they don't have -- they have very few to call on. they have a very small handful of latino men in the house and now that allen west is still there for the rest of this year and that leaves scott of south carolina of the remaining black republican in the house. so they don't have a whole lo
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